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Furnace altitude derate calculator
Gas furnaces lose input at altitude. The manufacturer's instructions take a fixed percent off the rating plate input for each 1,000 ft above sea level, once the site is above 2,000 ft. At 5,000 ft the 4 percent rule takes 20 percent off, so a 100,000 BTU/h furnace is set to 80,000 BTU/h, and at 80 AFUE that is about 64,000 BTU/h of output. The 2 percent rule used by other furnaces takes 10 percent off at the same elevation. This page applies the rule you pick, shows Carrier's Table 19 beside it, and gives the meter seconds to clock against. For the clocking itself, use the furnace gas input clocking calculator. To size the furnace from the heating load, use the furnace size calculator.
- Look in the furnace's installation instructions for the high altitude section. It gives the percent per 1,000 ft, the elevation where the reduction starts and the method, orifices or manifold pressure.
- Type the input from the rating plate and the site elevation, then pick the 4 percent rule, the 2 percent rule, another percent from the manual, or no derate up to a listed elevation. Add the AFUE for the output and the gas heating value for the meter seconds.
- The result shows the derated input in BTU/h, the output and the seconds a gas meter takes per revolution. Get the heating value from the gas supplier first, set the furnace from the manufacturer's tables, then clock the meter against the target.
Example result for the default inputs
100,000 BTU/h at 5,000 ft, 4 percent per 1,000 ft above sea level.
Input reduction
20 %
Derated input
80,000 BTU/h
Output at the derated input, about
64,000 BTU/h
| Rating plate input | 100,000 BTU/h |
|---|---|
| Elevation | 5,000 ft |
| Rule | 4 percent per 1,000 ft above sea level |
| Reduction starts above | 2,000 ft |
| Input reduction | 20% |
| Input multiplier | 0.800 |
| Derated input | 80,000 BTU/h |
| Input taken off | 20,000 BTU/h |
| AFUE | 80% |
| Output at the derated input | 64,000 BTU/h |
| Carrier 820SA Table 9 band | 4,001 to 5,000 ft, 16 to 20 percent |
| Carrier 820SA Table 9 multiplier | 0.82 |
| Input at the Table 9 multiplier | 82,000 BTU/h |
| Meter seconds at the Table 9 input, 1 cu ft dial | 43.9 s |
| Within 2 percent of the Table 9 input, 1 cu ft dial | 43.1 to 44.7 s |
| Gas heating value used | 1,000 BTU/ft3 |
| Meter seconds per revolution, 1 cu ft dial | 45.0 s |
| Within 2 percent of the derated input, 1 cu ft dial | 44.2 to 45.9 s |
| Meter seconds per revolution, 2 cu ft dial | 90.0 s |
| Within 2 percent of the derated input, 2 cu ft dial | 88.3 to 91.8 s |
- The furnace's own installation instructions decide the rule. Carrier prints 4 percent per 1,000 ft for the 820SA and 2 percent for the 59SC5A and 59SC2E, and ACHR News reports that Goodman furnaces can be installed up to 7,000 ft in the US without modification. Check the manual for the model on the rating plate.
- Ask the gas supplier for the in-season heating value before changing anything. Carrier notes that the heating content of natural gas at altitude may already give the reduction, and no change may be needed for some heating values. Rheem says the same of regional reduced heating values, except at extreme altitudes.
- Orifice size or manifold pressure delivers the derate, from the manufacturer's tables for the model, gas heating value and specific gravity. This page does not pick either one. Carrier warns not to apply an extra derate on top of its manifold pressure tables, which already cover altitude and heating value.
- Furnaces with a high altitude kit may need a pressure switch change as well. The Rheem RXGY-F04 instructions require one at 5,000 ft for the models they list. Other makes differ, so look for a kit in your furnace's instructions.
- Canada has its own rules. Carrier prints a flat 5 percent for 2,000 ft to 4,500 ft there. This page follows the US rules only.
- A Carrier 820SA is set by its own Table 9, not by the straight 4 percent rule: its manual says to multiply the rating plate input by the table's multiplier, 0.82 for 4,001 to 5,000 ft. That gives 82,000 BTU/h here, which can sit outside the 2 percent window around the rule's figure. Clock an 820SA against the Table 9 input, and any other furnace whose manual prints a table against that table.
- Output is the derated input times AFUE. AFUE is a seasonal figure, so this is an estimate. A spec sheet that prints the output at the derated input governs.
- No heating value was entered, so 1,000 BTU per cubic foot is used for the meter seconds. Use the supplier's figure to compare with a clocked meter.
- The meter seconds are for a gas meter clocked on natural gas with the other appliances off. To compare a measured input with the derated target, use the furnace gas input clocking calculator at /furnace-gas-input-clocking-calculator.
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How the derated input is calculated
A gas furnace is rated at the input on its rating plate for installations up to 2,000 ft. Above that, the manufacturer's installation instructions take a fixed percent off the input for each 1,000 ft of elevation, counted from sea level. This page applies the rule you pick to the rating plate input, then works out the output at an AFUE and the seconds a gas meter test dial takes per revolution at the derated input, so a clocked meter can be compared with the target. The percent is the manufacturer's and the page never guesses it from a model name.
- Input reduction
reduction % = rule % per 1,000 ft x elevation / 1,000 (only above 2,000 ft, otherwise 0)NFPA 54 section 11.1.2 says the input rating of appliances above 2,000 ft is reduced by one of three methods: 4 percent for each 1,000 ft above sea level, what the authority having jurisdiction permits, or the manufacturer's instructions. Carrier's 820SA text gives the same 4 percent rule and then sets the input by its Table 9. The 2,000 ft is the threshold and sea level is the base. At 5,000 ft the 4 percent rule takes 20 percent off. Counting from 2,000 ft would give 12 percent.- Derated input
derated input = rating plate input x (100 - reduction %) / 100100,000 BTU/h with 20 percent off is 80,000 BTU/h, the figure in the ACHR News distributor example. In the Carrier 59SC5A instructions the rating plate input is the rate for installations up to 2,000 ft.- Output
output = derated input x AFUEAt 80 AFUE the 80,000 BTU/h derated input gives 64,000 BTU/h, and at 95 AFUE it gives 76,000 BTU/h, both as the ACHR News example prints them. AFUE is a seasonal figure, so the result is an estimate. Use the output printed at the derated input when the spec sheet gives one.- Carrier Table 19 (2 percent rule)
multiplier = (100 - 2 x elevation / 1,000) / 100Carrier prints one multiplier for each 1,000 ft band, based on the midpoint altitude of the band. The 2 percent rule at 2,500 ft gives 0.95 and at 9,500 ft gives 0.81, the first and last multipliers in the table. This page uses the elevation you type, so at 4,900 ft it shows 0.902 beside the table's 0.91.- Meter seconds per revolution
seconds = 3600 x dial size x heating value / derated inputAt 80,000 BTU/h and 1,000 BTU per cubic foot, the 1 cu ft dial takes 45.0 seconds per revolution and the 2 cu ft dial takes 90.0 seconds. Carrier asks for an input within plus or minus 2 percent of the rating plate input, or as adjusted for altitude, which is 44.2 to 45.9 seconds on the 1 cu ft dial. Clock the meter with the other gas appliances off.- Rule choices
4 percent, 2 percent, other percent, or no derate up to a listed elevationNFPA 54, Carrier's 820SA, the Coleman manual and the Rheem high altitude kit instructions give 4 percent per 1,000 ft, and the 820SA turns it into a Table 9 by band. The Carrier 59SC5A and 59SC2E give 2 percent in the US, and ACHR News gives 2 percent for the Rheem R97V and R98V. ACHR News also reports that Goodman furnaces can be installed to 7,000 ft in the US without modification, which is the listed elevation choice. For any other furnace, pick the other percent and type it from the manual.
Worked examples from published furnace data
The default case is the distributor example in ACHR News: 100,000 BTU/h at 5,000 ft on the 4 percent rule. That takes 20 percent off, which leaves 80,000 BTU/h. At 80 AFUE the output is about 64,000 BTU/h, and at 95 AFUE about 76,000 BTU/h, as the article prints them. The Rheem R97V rule of 2 percent takes 10 percent off at 5,000 ft. On a 1 cu ft dial at 1,000 BTU per cubic foot, 80,000 BTU/h is 45.0 seconds per revolution, and the Carrier plus or minus 2 percent window is 44.2 to 45.9 seconds.
Carrier's Table 19 gives one multiplier per band, based on the midpoint altitude of the band. The table below puts the printed values next to the 2 percent rule at the middle of each band. All 9 agree, which is how the formula was checked. Between midpoints the two differ. At 4,900 ft the table prints 0.91 for the 4,001 to 5,000 ft band and the formula gives 0.902.
| Band | Printed derate, % | Printed multiplier | Midpoint | 2 percent rule at midpoint | Agrees |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 to 2,000 ft | 0 | 1.00 | any | 1.00 | Yes |
| 2,001 to 3,000 ft | 4 to 6 | 0.95 | 2,500 ft | 0.95 | Yes |
| 3,001 to 4,000 ft | 6 to 8 | 0.93 | 3,500 ft | 0.93 | Yes |
| 4,001 to 5,000 ft | 8 to 10 | 0.91 | 4,500 ft | 0.91 | Yes |
| 5,001 to 6,000 ft | 10 to 12 | 0.89 | 5,500 ft | 0.89 | Yes |
| 6,001 to 7,000 ft | 12 to 14 | 0.87 | 6,500 ft | 0.87 | Yes |
| 7,001 to 8,000 ft | 14 to 16 | 0.85 | 7,500 ft | 0.85 | Yes |
| 8,001 to 9,000 ft | 16 to 18 | 0.83 | 8,500 ft | 0.83 | Yes |
| 9,001 to 10,000 ft | 18 to 20 | 0.81 | 9,500 ft | 0.81 | Yes |
Eight cases below run through the same functions the form uses, all on a 100,000 BTU/h plate with the heating value at 1,000 BTU per cubic foot. The 5,280 ft rows show the two rules side by side, 21.12 percent off on the 4 percent rule and 10.56 percent on the 2 percent rule, which leaves 78,880 and 89,440 BTU/h. Carrier's table puts that elevation in the 5,001 to 6,000 ft band at 0.89, or 89,000 BTU/h. The 1,800 ft row takes nothing off, and the last two rows land on the table's first and last multipliers above 2,000 ft.
| Case | Setup | Result |
|---|---|---|
| ACHR News distributor example at 80 AFUE | 100,000 BTU/h, 5,000 ft, 4 percent rule, 80 AFUE | 20 percent off, 80,000 BTU/h, multiplier 0.800, output about 64,000 BTU/h, 45.0 s on the 1 cu ft dial |
| Same furnace at 95 AFUE | 100,000 BTU/h, 5,000 ft, 4 percent rule, 95 AFUE | 20 percent off, 80,000 BTU/h, multiplier 0.800, output about 76,000 BTU/h, 45.0 s on the 1 cu ft dial |
| Rheem R97V rule, 2 percent, at 5,000 ft | 100,000 BTU/h, 5,000 ft, 2 percent rule | 10 percent off, 90,000 BTU/h, multiplier 0.900, Table 19 0.91, 40.0 s on the 1 cu ft dial |
| Denver elevation, 4 percent rule | 100,000 BTU/h, 5,280 ft, 4 percent rule | 21.12 percent off, 78,880 BTU/h, multiplier 0.789, 45.6 s on the 1 cu ft dial |
| Denver elevation, 2 percent rule | 100,000 BTU/h, 5,280 ft, 2 percent rule | 10.56 percent off, 89,440 BTU/h, multiplier 0.894, Table 19 0.89, 40.3 s on the 1 cu ft dial |
| Below the threshold, 1,800 ft | 100,000 BTU/h, 1,800 ft, 4 percent rule | 0 percent off, 100,000 BTU/h, multiplier 1.000, 36.0 s on the 1 cu ft dial |
| Middle of the first Table 19 band, 2,500 ft | 100,000 BTU/h, 2,500 ft, 2 percent rule | 5 percent off, 95,000 BTU/h, multiplier 0.950, Table 19 0.95, 37.9 s on the 1 cu ft dial |
| Middle of the last Table 19 band, 9,500 ft | 100,000 BTU/h, 9,500 ft, 2 percent rule | 19 percent off, 81,000 BTU/h, multiplier 0.810, Table 19 0.81, 44.4 s on the 1 cu ft dial |
Standards and data sources
- NFPA 54 section 11.1.2, High Altitude, as reprinted in the Uniform Mechanical Code 2018 Appendix B 101.2 - input ratings apply up to 2,000 ft. Above that they are reduced by one of three methods: 4 percent for each 1,000 ft above sea level, as the authority having jurisdiction permits, or by the manufacturer's installation instructions. Section 11.1.1 prohibits firing above the nameplate rating, so the meter window on this page stops at the rating plate input.
- Carrier 820SA/821SA gas furnace, Installation, Start-Up, Operating and Service and Maintenance Instructions (II820SA-02) - page 25: the input rating for altitudes above 2,000 ft must be reduced by 4 percent for each 1,000 ft above sea level, and the input on the rating plate is multiplied by the de-rate multiplier in Table 9, from 0.90 at 2,001 to 3,000 ft to 0.62 at 9,001 to 10,000 ft. The result shows that multiplier with the 4 percent rule.
- Carrier 59SC5A condensing gas furnace, Installation, Start-up, Operating and Service and Maintenance Instructions (59SC5A-13SI) - the 2 percent rule for the US above 2,000 ft (page 62), the 5 percent rule for 2,000 ft to 4,500 ft in Canada, the advice to get the in-season gas heating value before any adjustment, and Table 19 on page 65. Tests reproduce its 9 multipliers, from 1.00 to 0.81, with the 2 percent rule at the midpoint of each band. The 59SC2E (59SC2E-03SI) prints the same table as Table 24.
- Coleman / Unitary Products gas furnace manual (Sears parts document L0611386) - the high altitude installation note: for elevation above 2,000 ft, derate the furnace input 4 percent for each 1,000 ft above sea level, done by reducing the orifice size. Its derating chart cites NFPA 54, ANSI Z223.1 and the National Fuel Gas Code.
- Rheem RXGY-F04 high altitude kit instructions - elevations above 2,000 ft require the furnace to be de-rated 4 percent per thousand feet, factory orifices are sized for a sea level natural gas heating value of 1,075 BTU per cubic foot, regional reduced heating values may remove the need to change orifices except at extreme altitudes, and a pressure switch change is required at 5,000 ft for the models listed. The orifice examples cite Table F.4 of the National Fuel Gas Code Handbook, 2002.
- ACHR News, Joanna R. Turpin, November 27, 2017, Furnaces must be modified for high altitude applications - the Rheem R97V and R98V rule of 2 percent per 1,000 ft, with 10 percent less input at 5,000 ft, Goodman furnaces installed up to 7,000 ft in the US without modification, and a distributor example of 100,000 BTU/h at 5,000 ft that gives about 80,000, 64,000 and 76,000 BTU/h. Tests reproduce those figures.
Limitations of this calculator
- Your furnace decides the rule. The page does not know the model, and the installation instructions for the exact model set the percent, the threshold and the method. Make the choice on the form from the manual.
- Orifice drill size and manifold pressure are not computed. They come from the manufacturer's tables for the model, the gas heating value and the specific gravity of the gas. Carrier says its manifold pressure tables already adjust for both altitude and heating value, with no further derate on top.
- A step sits at 2,000 ft. Just above it, the 4 percent rule gives about 8 percent off and the 2 percent rule about 4 percent, which matches the first band of Carrier's Table 19. Nothing in the sources ramps the reduction in from 2,000 ft. Carrier's 820SA manual also prints a multiplier table by band that can differ from the straight 4 percent rule by a point or two either way, and the table governs where a manual prints it.
- Natural gas only. Propane has its own orifice and pressure tables, and the heating value range on the form is for natural gas.
- Canada follows different rules. Carrier prints a flat 5 percent for 2,000 ft to 4,500 ft there, and the Coleman manual lowers the manifold pressure over that range. Use the manufacturer's Canadian instructions and the installation code for a job there.
- NFPA 54 section 11.1.2 was read as the Uniform Mechanical Code Appendix B reprints it, not in an NFPA edition. It allows three methods above 2,000 ft: 4 percent per 1,000 ft above sea level, what the authority having jurisdiction permits, or the manufacturer's installation instructions. Check the edition your jurisdiction adopted.
- Elevation means the site's own. A house on a slope can sit hundreds of feet above or below the elevation a weather report lists for the nearest airport, and the reduction changes with each 1,000 ft.
- Two-stage and modulating furnaces have more than one input rate. Enter the high fire input from the rating plate, and read the manufacturer's instructions for how the lower rates are set.
- High altitude kits and pressure switches are not selected. The Rheem RXGY-F04 instructions require a pressure switch change at 5,000 ft for the models they list, and other makes differ.
- This is a planning estimate, not an installation procedure. A licensed contractor, the manufacturer's instructions and the authority having jurisdiction decide the installation, and the page makes no claim of code compliance.
Common altitude derate mistakes
- Counting the 1,000 ft steps from 2,000 ft. Both Carrier and Coleman count from sea level once the site is above 2,000 ft. At 5,000 ft the 4 percent rule takes 20 percent off, which leaves 80,000 BTU/h from a 100,000 BTU/h plate. Counting from 2,000 ft takes 12 percent off and leaves 88,000 BTU/h, 10 percent too much input.
- Using the wrong percent for the furnace. The 4 percent and 2 percent rules are both in print, for different furnaces. At 5,000 ft, 100,000 BTU/h becomes 80,000 BTU/h on the 4 percent rule and 90,000 BTU/h on the 2 percent rule. Applying the 2 percent rule to a 4 percent furnace leaves 12.5 percent too much input. Read the manual for the model.
- Taking a second derate from a manifold pressure table. Carrier says its manifold pressure tables are as measured at altitude and cover both altitude and heating value, and not to apply an additional derate factor to them. Derate once, by the method the manual gives. A derated input worked out here is a target to check, not a figure to subtract again.
- Changing orifices before asking about the heating value. Carrier says to get the expected in-season gas heating value from the gas supplier before any adjustment for capacity or altitude, because the heating content at altitude may already provide the reduction. Rheem sizes its factory orifices for a sea level heating value of 1,075 BTU per cubic foot and says regional reduced heating values may remove the need to change them except at extreme altitudes.
- Clocking against the sea level input. A derated furnace that fires at its sea level rating clocks fast. For a 100,000 BTU/h plate the sea level target is 36.0 seconds per revolution on a 1 cu ft dial at 1,000 BTU per cubic foot, while the 20 percent derated target is 45.0 seconds. A meter that shows 36.0 seconds means the furnace is firing 25 percent above its derated input.
- Reading Table 19 as exact at every elevation. Carrier's multipliers are based on the midpoint altitude of each 1,000 ft band. At 4,900 ft the 4,001 to 5,000 ft band prints 0.91, while the 2 percent rule at 4,900 ft gives 0.902. The table is the figure to follow for a furnace that prints it. Use the formula to see how far the table sits from your elevation.
Common questions about furnace altitude derate
How much do you derate a gas furnace for altitude?
It depends on the manufacturer's rule. NFPA 54 lists 4 percent as one of three methods, beside what the authority having jurisdiction permits and the manufacturer's instructions. The Coleman manual and the Rheem high altitude kit instructions take 4 percent off the input for each 1,000 ft above sea level, once the site is above 2,000 ft, and the Carrier 820SA sets the same rule as a table by band. Carrier's 59SC5A and 59SC2E use 2 percent in the US, and ACHR News gives 2 percent for the Rheem R97V and R98V. At 5,000 ft that is 20 percent or 10 percent off.
Do you derate from 2,000 ft or from sea level?
From sea level. The 2,000 ft figure is where the reduction starts, not where it is counted from. Carrier says the input rating above 2,000 ft must be reduced for each 1,000 ft above sea level, and Coleman words it the same way. At 5,000 ft the 4 percent rule takes 20 percent off, not 12.
What is the derated input of a 100,000 BTU/h furnace at 5,000 ft?
With the 4 percent rule it is 80,000 BTU/h, 20 percent less. The 2 percent rule gives 90,000 BTU/h. At 80 AFUE the 80,000 BTU/h input gives about 64,000 BTU/h of output, and at 95 AFUE about 76,000 BTU/h, the figures in an ACHR News distributor example.
What does Carrier Table 19 say?
Table 19 in the Carrier 59SC5A instructions lists a derate multiplier for each 1,000 ft band up to 10,000 ft, from 1.00 up to 2,000 ft down to 0.81 for the top band. Carrier bases each multiplier on the midpoint altitude of its band. The 2 percent rule at 2,500 ft gives 0.95 and at 9,500 ft gives 0.81, as the table prints. Between midpoints this page shows the formula value for your elevation beside the table's.
Does the local gas heating value change the derate?
It can. Carrier notes that the heating content of natural gas at altitude may already provide for a reduction in capacity, and says to get the expected in-season heating value from the gas supplier before making adjustments. Rheem says regional reduced heating values may remove the need to change orifices except at extreme altitudes. Ask the supplier first, then use the manufacturer's tables.
How do I check the derate with the gas meter?
Turn off the other gas appliances, run the furnace for a few minutes and time the test dial. The seconds for one revolution are 3600 times the dial size times the heating value, divided by the input. For 80,000 BTU/h at 1,000 BTU per cubic foot that is 45.0 seconds on the 1 cu ft dial and 90.0 seconds on the 2 cu ft dial. Carrier allows plus or minus 2 percent of the rating plate input, or as adjusted for altitude. The furnace gas input clocking calculator times a meter and gives the input.
Does the furnace need anything besides a lower input at altitude?
Often it does. Many furnaces need a high altitude kit or a pressure switch change, and the instructions say when. The Rheem RXGY-F04 instructions require a pressure switch change at 5,000 ft for the models they list. Carrier's condensing furnace instructions use manifold pressure tables for altitude and heating value. This page gives the target input only.
What about Canada?
Different rules apply. Carrier's 59SC5A instructions reduce the input by 5 percent for altitudes of 2,000 ft to 4,500 ft in Canada, and the Coleman manual lowers the manifold pressure over that range. Follow the manufacturer's Canadian instructions and the installation code there. This page covers US rules only.
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Used on the same job
Set the furnace by the manual, then clock the meter
The derated input here is the target. Orifice size or manifold pressure turns it into a setting, from the manufacturer's tables for your model, gas heating value and specific gravity. Get the heating value from the gas supplier first, because Carrier notes it may already provide the reduction. Once the furnace is set, time the meter with the furnace gas input clocking calculator and compare the measured input with the target. Some furnaces also need a high altitude kit or a pressure switch change, so look for one in the instructions. You can also ask the assistant to talk through the rule for a model.
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